Cue Ring?

[Mall]

None of the Hall of Fame jockeys & others interviewed has ever heard of one, & neither have I, which doesn\'t mean much given that it wasn\'t until a few yrs ago that I actually saw a \"battery\" & got a demonstration of how one works. But that\'s what Jose Santos says he had in his hand on D-Day in a photo which is creating quite a stir & which triggered a meeting of regulators scheduled for this morning. You can link to the photo & the Miama Herald story at equidaily.com.

[HP]

Here it is.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/5828759.htm

Don\'t these guys know what a good line Funny Cide had coming into the race? Just tell the stewards he paired up and let\'s move on.

Chuckles,

Funny Cide\'s Derby was one of the ten fastest ever. Every year all I hear is how \"this crop isn\'t that good, blah, blah, blah, Dr. Fager, blah, Kelso, blah, blah, Spend A Buck would\'ve blah, blah, blah.\" I\'m not so sure how Spend A Buck or any of the others would\'ve stacked up, but this kind of thing sounds like old hippies talking about how great the weed was way back when. Funny Cide is friggin\' fast enough, okay? Give the guy some credit. He\'s already a gelding, does he need any more aggravation?

HP

[Mall]

That\'s what Santos claims he said, referring, if I understand it correctly, to a copper bracelet or something similar which is worn or carried for arthritis. So at this pt all we know for certain is that Santos is one of those who does not put much stock in the irrefutable scientific proof that copper & magnet devices do not have any of the healing properties attributed to them by their charlatan salespersons.

[JR]

So does this mean Frankel will have to make a quick reversal of his decision not to run Empire Maker in the Preakness? After all, if he were to sweep the next 2 legs and it is later determined that Santos was carryiing a battery, EM wins the triple crown.

Why do I have this bad feeling that racing officials won\'t pursue this?

[jeffbonds]

Fox news just carried the story. Monday, O\'Reilly will demand an investigation.

I was at Arlington the day Dr. Fager splashed home under all that weight. Somebody has been faster in the last 35 years? ( And, the weed WAS better.)

[Anonymous User]

I knew Seattle Slew. Seattle Slew was a good friend of mine and Funny Cide is NO Seattle Slew.

Which is not to say that he\'s not very fast, with or without a battery

lol

CtC

[Catalin]

I\'ve attached an enlarged picture (courtesy of the Miami Herald).  Sure looks suspicous to me, but you be the judge.

Oh well, I tried to attach it but it didn\'t seem to take.



Post Edited (05-10-03 18:20)

[ExPlayer]

  Here\'s photo of this supposed Q-ray piece of junk

http://www.q-ray-ionized-bracelet.com/images/q-ionized-bracelet.jpg

Does\'t look like what the pics show to me.

I think Oscar Barrera was the last honest man in racing.

[Anonymous User]

I can\'t say the odd pic shows a buzzer. Far too speculative to say that. The other board has a post that says Santos went to work with the butt of his hand down the stretch. Let\'s assume the film shows that. And lets assume Santos had a device. You know what? I like his case! The photo is what it is and it\'s well short of proving anything. Additionally, a Jock can go to work with the butt of his hand to encourage...why not? Especially in a race that was so easily won. Maybe use of the whip overencourages Funny and leaves him short for Pimlico. I hope Santos gets a lawyer, but what i love most is that there is No battery in the possession of the authorities. (At least not yet) and without that evidence I think Santos beats this rap and Funny runs as well at Pimlico electric aid or no.

But you know what, I almost hope he did carry a buzzer. A little old fashioned mojo to counter the modern master of it.

lol

CtC

[Anonymous User]

Mall, I know scores of golfers that use magnets to keep shoulders and elbows comfortable during the game. My suspicion is that metals gather in the joints of the arthritic and that the magnets pull them out of the joint to allow less painful movement. The metals remain in the body is my theory but they are dislodged (along with what has adhered to them) from where they have accumulated in the joint. To dismiss scores of anecdotal accounts on the opinion of doctors is for the individual to decide. Personally, I believe in the magnets and trust the doctors and their studies about as much as I trust Bobby Frankel.

CtC

[Mall]

This is not the place to debate this, but the way that unipolar & multipolar magnetic devices work does not depend on the \"opinions\" of doctors or anyone else, & \"iron\" in the blood is very different than metallic iron. Old golfer testimonials only prove that the powerful placebo effect can always be counted on to cause a certain percentage to believe that a completely bogus item has had precisely the positive effect they were anticipating. Individuals obviously have the option of believing anecdotal evidence that q-rays(the co. claims that its magnet, which wouldn\'t hold a paper on the refrigerator, also balances the yin & yang of existence) work, just as they have the option of believing that a mild electrical impulse will produce six pack abs. But when an individual holds such beliefs, I have the option of pointing out that he or she is being mislead into believing things which are simply not true.

[mholbert]

move along, nothing to see here.

from the enlarged photo, it is obvious that what you see is bailey\'s silks through santos\' somewhat open hand.

http://www.drf.com/santos2.html

[bdhsheets]

\"Hello Houston, we have a problem\"

You can say what you want about seeing thru Santos\' hand and seeing whatever, Santos has already admitted to having \"something\" in his paw. If he kept his mouth shut, perhaps you can infer Baileys silks, a sows ear etc. I think he screwed up big time without speaking to someone beforehand.