jimbo66 Wrote:
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> Richiebee,
>
> How you can seriously argue for more
> non-competitive races is beyond my ability to
> understand or rationalize. You really care about
> her \"record\" more than how it is achieved?
> The \"classic distance\" for Fillies and Mares, in
> our country, in this time period, is 1 1/8 miles.
Yes, but as I have stated, what makes each of these gals special to me
is their accomplishments against males. As I have stated, I am already convinced
that RA would prevail over Zen at 9 furlongs, though it would be a close finish.
RA\'s advantage, in my opinion, would be enhanced if the 9f race was at Belmont,
where it would be run out of the chute.
> You really don\'t want to see the two best mares
> of the last 30 years meet in a race at that
> distance (apologies to Personal Ensign). Instead
> you want to see Zenyatta race in the Ladie\'s
> Secrt, on poly, against Rinterval again? And the
> reason is that it sets up a better bet in the
> Breeders Cup?
After St Trinians layed it on the line against Zenyatta, it was announced that
she came out of the race injured. Wonder how long it will take Rinterval to
recuperate from yesterday\'s efforts?
> I don\'t know about \"owe it to racing\", although it
> isn\'t a bad argument. How about \"owe it to
> Zenyatta\'s legacy\". For her true fans, many on
> this board, they will still love her even though
> she doesn\'t race in competitive races. But there
> are a whole bunch of people out there who will
> have memories of a very very consistent horse, who
> was extremely conservatively managed. Not of a
> great horse who took on other great horses.
Jim 20 for 20 lifetime, 13 Grade 1s and 3 BC wins is what Moss/Shireffs is
shooting for. That is not \"great\", its legendary. If you have a problem with the
strength of her competition, your problem is really with the whole sport of
Racing, which has produced a breed which races less and less frequently. Your
problem is with a sport which has been broken to an extent into two different
sports conducted on two different surfaces. If you believe her performances are
overrated, that might be an issue you could take up with the committee that
grades stakes races.
> Side point. Trivia Question: How many races of
> any kind have the 11 horses whom Zenyatta beat in
> the Breeders Cup classic collectively won since
> then? The clue is less than the total number of
> Grade 1 wins the two horses that Rachel beat in
> the Acorn last year (by over 19 lenghts).
They kept showing that race on TVG yesterday. She cost me quite a few dollars
because I tried to get cute and left her out of the multiple race wagers. The
sting of those losses is gone, the wounds healed, and I was able to watch the
race objectively. She was winning pretty easily.
And the proper inquiry might be how many Grade 1 wins did the field in last years
BC Classic have GOING INTO the race?
Trivia Question: Throughout the great history of the NY Yankees, with all the
great players they have had, there is only one player who won Rookie of the Year
AND MVP (not in the same year) wearing the Pinstripes. CLUE-- his statistics were
not particularly impressive in either season.
> Does it mean Rachel is better? Nope, it means
> nothing because the two of them aren\'t meeting on
> the track.... So all we can do is talk and
> extrapoloate....
