Jimbo,
I did not say it was pure judgment. But judgment is very much involved. In the case of Randy Moss, he makes his pace figures in large part off of Andy Beyer\'s final-time variant, and Beyer gets his final-time variant by using the projection method, which is judgment galore. What is more, Moss cuts some of his pace variants loose from Beyer\'s final-time variant--and this involves another judgment. Indeed, his entire system is based on an overarching judgment about when to do one or the other. And his scale, a supposed \"pure speed\" scale, is based on yet another judgment. Calling these things \"not an opinion,\" but rather \"a mathematical calculation,\" as you did, is flat-out false. Opinions come into play constantly when making these things, and I believed that this deserved to be pointed out. In addition, you mentioned pacefigures. You mean the CJ Milkowski website? CJ uses judgment all over the place. And Thoro-Graph? JB made a whole post talking about how when you buy Thoro-Graph, the most important thing you are buying is his judgment about what figures to give. Ragozin? Same thing. Judgments all over the place.
You wrote:
\"But do you really disagree that Zenyatta\'s pace figure for this race was not her standard or are you just cherrypicking my post for the portion of it you don\'t agree with?\"
I think the idea of using Moss Pace Figures to compare fractions earned on different circuits is comical. Moss is OK at some things, but this ain\'t one of them. His numbers across circuits can be so ludicrous that I have been known to burst out laughing as I read them. But to your larger point, I wouldn\'t be at all surprised if Zenyatta\'s pace figure from Saturday fits with her others. However, I do not believe that is the key issue. The key issue is what her pace figure would have been without \"kickback\" or \"funny business\" or whatever you want to call it. And on this question I have no opinion whatsoever. I just wanted to clear up the opinion/judgment thing.
