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[Flighted Iron]

Sway Away, the San Vicente runner-up who finished a troubled sixth in the Rebel, lost a front tooth in the race, said his trainer, Jeff Bonde. The Southern California-based horse was second choice in the Rebel.

“I view it as throw-out race,” said Bonde. “We left him in Arkansas. More than likely he’ll run back in the Arkansas Derby.”

The start of the Rebel was delayed when Alternation reared up in the gate, lost his balance, and then sat down in his stall, resulting in him being scratched. Bonde said Sway Away, who had been standing good in the gate, lunged into his stall doors anticipating the break, likely knocking out his tooth. The horse then broke next to last. “He wasn’t set and he got away bad,” said Bonde, noting the Sway Away was then shuffled back in the first turn of the Rebel.

 DRF.com

 Could be a factor at a price or could beat the factor at a price? Thoughts?

[miff]

Could explain why a horsse that should have run well, did not run a step!

[TGJB]

Given all the discussion about this race I might post it after I do it. I think he\'s going to get about a 5 or so.

[HP]

It\'s funny but whenever I hear a story like this...horse flipped its palate, had throat surgery, lost a shoe, whatever it is...and I go \"oh THAT\'s why he didn\'t win\"...the next time out...I play it...and the horse doesn\'t run either.  And the horse is a SHORT PRICE because people are expecting the improvement.  

I suspect that the times this happens and the horse DOES win...we don\'t hear the story.  When the story is PUBLIC, like this one, you never see the big reversal.  Am I wrong about this?  Can anyone cite times where something like this happened and then BOOM! the horse ran like a rocket next out and won?  It must have happened at some point!  

HP

[bstaubs22]

1) TGJB, that would be awesome if the results could be posted!

2) I was a big fan of Sway Away before the San Vicente, after that race I thought he would run extremely well next out. However, the more and more I thought about it, it seems like most of the time closing sprinters that stretch out are just not as effective in routes. The sprinters with the even running style tend to do more favorably IMO.

B

[miff]

Gomez was reportedly very high on Sway after he worked him like 24 change for 7f at Santa.Understand what HP is talking about(trainer excuses) but there are legit excuses sometime.

Mike

[Flighted Iron]

Can anyone cite times where something like this happened and then BOOM! the horse ran like a rocket next out and won?

 I remember midnight lute having throat surgery,getting time and then coming back
huge,but I do get what your saying.I suppose if he\'s 15-1 next out he may as well
have broken his jaw it was so bad vs. 4-1 and it being blown way out of proportion.

[RICH]

Kip Deville had a very bad back, Dutrow mentioned that he had a bunch of work done, etc, maybe a chamber, I can\'t remember. Then he won the Bcup.

[alm]

This horse doesn\'t have to win his next race....he only has to win the one after that.  Frankly, I\'d prefer to see a nice third over that heartless speed trap...leading to a good trip at Churchill.  You\'ll see some real odds then.

[BitPlayer]

What do you make of Gomez taking the mount on To Honor and Serve (before the Rebel)?  Do you think Mott got a Derby commitment from him?  If so, doesn\'t that suggest Gomez wasn\'t that high on Sway Away?

[sighthound]

It\'s normal to look in a horses mouth after they have gate trouble.  To look for this exact type of problem.  It\'s a gate scratch.  Where was the vet?

Never mind - I misread, the the gate trouble horse isn\'t Sway.

[Flighted Iron]

Tried to search necessary pressure to accomplish what the gate(or horse)did.

[jimbo66]

alm,

Since when has Oaklawan become a \"heartless speed track\"?   Do you have it confused with Keenland pre-plastic?

Yes, the Saturday card seemed to favor speed, but I don\'t know that Oaklawn is the Aqueduct inner track.

As for coming in 3rd and then winning the derby, I think you can get long long odds on that.  I don\'t think he gets into the derby if he comes 3rd.  Not enough earnings.

[P-Dub]

miff Wrote:
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> Gomez was reportedly very high on Sway after he
> worked him like 24 change for 7f at
> Santa.Understand what HP is talking about(trainer
> excuses) but there are legit excuses sometime.
>
> Mike

Breathalyzer or blood test??

[alm]

I\'ll check out the Oaklawn numbers and get back to you, but I stopped betting it a long time ago because I am still waiting for some of my deep closers to make up any kind of ground in the stretch there.