Rebel

[TGJB]

Sheets for the Rebel. I did the race at exactly the same variant as the previous race (Azeri), to the tenth of a point.

[Footlick]

Thanks Mr Brown!

[jimbo66]

Well, at least Sway Away didn\'t pair up.  I guess I am confused.  My eyes tell me that you have The Factor too slow.  However, if the Factor went faster, that means Sway Away ran faster too, which if anything, I think he did the opposite.

The race 2 back for the Factor still seems like the outlier.

On a separate and mostly unrelated note, Footlick, unless you are under 10 years old, this Mr. Brown stuff has to go.  That is about 10 of them........   Obviously you haven\'t met Mr. Brown, otherwise you would show much less deference..........

[sekrah]

Bombs Away on JP Gusto next time out.

[Rick B.]

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> Bombs Away on JP Gusto next time out.


Question for TGJB on the \"buried\" race for JP\'s Gusto:

Was that just because of the wide trip? Or did some other stuff happen that I missed?

Maybe we need a corresponding \"undertaker\" symbol for Dominguez, what with rate of Derby contenders he\'s burying. One shovel = 5 lengths?

[miff]

Rick,

Watching the race, JP Gusto\'s had one of the best overall trips in the race(though wide on turns). Was empty throughout and was beaten soundly showing a pea sized heart from the 1/8 pole to the wire looking for a soft spot to lay down.JP wants to shorten up according to what Dominguez\'s agent said in NY after the Rebel.

\"Buried\" all right, like in RIP!!

Good Luck

Mike

[Footlick]

I guess it is a curse of my upbringing that I was raised with manners and don\'t address somebody I do not know with their first name.  Excuse my politeness.

[Niall]

I had read/heard about how Caleb\'s Passe had a ton in the SW but lacked room and also the tough trip JP had so I went and watched the replay. The replay confirmed that CP did have much left, but as it relates to this thread if you watch the gallop out JP looks spent right after the wire ...

[TGJB]

It\'s bad enough when kids call you mister. But what get\'s really annoying is when women in their twenties do it. I tell them Mr. Brown was my father, they must be talking about him.

[TGJB]

Yes, if you don\'t believe in geometry, the explanation for all those horses that race wide not doing as well is that they ran worse than horses on the inside. And the reason horses on the inside do better is because of an inside bias.

Or, you could look at a race like the Rebel and see how, once you factor (no pun intended) in ground loss, how well the figures fit.

[magicnight]

The other day I was buying a six and some dog biscuits at Gristede\'s, and was - as usual - chatting up the pretty girl at the register. I noticed she seemed to be hitting a few extra buttons, and when I looked at the tape when I got home I saw (after putting on my cheaters) that she had given me the senior discount on the dog treats. Totally deflated at first (I\'m 53), I perked up some minutes later when I rationalized that she obviously figured my dog was the senior citizen.

[miff]

I believe my eyes far more than geometry, in watching racing. You are probably not too familiar with splits(NOT what you think).JP Gusto fig looks correct, no argument with your formula. He did not run a step on my formula, acknowledge ground loss, but no rail bias, a speed bias, very different.Arch horse, rail all the way,kinda empty, a couple of circler\'s in there ran well.

Buried TG figs very very good, JP\'s an \"ugly\" buried!


Mike

[TGJB]

The problem nowadays is that \"buried\" seems to mean \"bet me\"-- at the major tracks everyone seems to know them.

[alm]

For the week down there nearly all routes were won by horses on or near the rail...and visually speaking any horse that attempted to close seemed to run a lot wider than one would expect.  

Does anyone have any comparative insight on the banking of the turns at Oaklawn?

[phil23]

miff - your contributions to this board are interesting and can be insightful.  But with all due respect, when you say, \"I believe my eyes far more than geometry\", you sound like one of those hockey fans who says he doesn\'t need to look at the newly developed analytic stats, he just watches the game to see who\'s good.  Or people in baseball who still think RBI is a meaningful number.

I love betting against people like that.