Kings Bishop

[Silver Charm]

Any real reason to be playing Uncle Mo at odds of something like 3-2 with 2 slow 3YO races and 6 average works since the sickness?

His 2YO form seems like 2 years ago. Flashpoint did not draw well but based on 3YO form he should roast Uncle Mo and hopefully end this crusade that Mo is some sort of relevant runner this season. Please win a Graded Stake first....

[number5858]

Mo is currently 3/5, so no thanks. I have to like both Flashpoint at 9/2 and Runflatout at 12-1. Think I will bet those two with ROI in the Travers in a double.

[Rick]

See nothing wrong with the 5,6,8 at 18-1,33-1,17-1 so I\'ll use them with the 4,7 in tris. Hope the others bounce. good luck

[Boscar Obarra]

Mo , much best.

 Calebs, Maragh , seconditis lately, absolutely classic ride.

[miff]

Perfect set up, no excuse!

[sighthound]

First off the layoff, Mo ran great near the speed and lost by a nostril, and should have a good forward move off that.  Hope that\'s what we get to see this fall.   He doesn\'t even look like he\'s matured physically yet.

[JR]

What about the drifting in?

[sighthound]

Have to see how he walks out of the stall tomorrow.  They can drift because something is chronically or newly sore or injured, they are weak on one side (muscle-weak, one-sided, crooked), they are simply leg-weary/tired, the jock is unbalanced a bit in the stretch (they all ride with left stirrup longer) and they are moving over under the jock\'s weight, moving away from the whip, away from the crowd, trying to find the rail as they are taught to do in the am when they gallop (they gallop in the middle and drop to the rail to work, so it\'s instinct to go to the rail).

And I\'m sure there\'s more than that

Just like you and I, acute injuries are painful and swell up immediately, and other insidious things don\'t hurt until the next day.

[Silver Charm]

The race got a 106 Beyer....the best Fig on the Card! Mo had a right to be tired and ran very very well, I thought. Better tham he ran is how he looked. He just didnt look like much of a 3YO Physically in the Spring! But I thought he did yesterday!

The Factor just ran really good in the Pat o\'Brien. Seems to have settled down a lot more early in his races than he was doing in the Spring also. These two may Meet somewhere and it would be interesting.....

[sekrah]

The Factor looked awesome.

[jimbo66]

Uncle Mo will get a good figure, because he was 3w or 4w on the turn and they ran fast, but IMO he didn\'t run that good of a race.  He got a nice trip off the hotly contested pace and then had a move to assume the lead.  Caleb\'s Posse is far from a world-beater.  Losing to him isnot something Uncle Moe is supposed to do, if he was truly \"right\".

The Factor, on the other hand, will likely get a worse figure than Uncle Moe, but to me ran awesome.  Got outsprinted out of the gate by an extremely good sprinter in SMiling Tiger, relaxed very well, inside of that one, then put him away fairly easily.  After briefly looking vulnerable to the closers, he continued on and even slightly widened late.  I don\'t know what he ran, but he has to be the favorite for the BC Sprint.

[Boscar Obarra]

So let me get this right.

 If Caleb doesn\'t fire and Mo wins by daylight, then Mo is good, but not if he gets nosed out by a horse who ran big and saved ground on the turn, where the rail looked juiced vs Mo\'s extra wide trip.

 Is that it?

[sighthound]

Mo lost by a nose and ran very well.  He should move forward off that in a big way.  That was first off a layoff, three-year-old, off only 5 works.  Nice to see the talent is still there - now lets see what he can really do.

[jimbo66]

Boscar,

Do you remember thinking the same thing when Rachel lost by a neck at Churchill Downs to the Mott horse (Unrivaled Belle), and then again when she lost at 1 1/4 to the McGaughey filly?  (TGJB posted the same thing here, saying if UB didn\'t fire, and Rachel won by 7, nobody would question her).

The point is that she did lose and so did Moe.

Same story, different year.

Lots of people on this board,including the host, insisted Rachel was the same in her 4 year old year, when she kept losing.  Finally, even the connections realized she wasn\'t and retired her.  

Not saying they should retire Uncle Moe, but what I am saying is that he tripped out in the race and got beat by a relatively mediocre sprinter in Caleb\'s Posse. At least RAchel lost to a future Eclipse Award winner.  I don\'t think we will be saying that about Caleb\'s Posse.

[miff]

Glass half full or half empty re MO?

The layoff from reported illness, had \"work\" over the winter, tough 7f distance first back are the pluses for that performance(Beyer 106, a minus TG -2ish if JB agrees)

Getting run down by Calebs Posse off a perfect set up/trip while wandering to the fence are all minuses.Was he stressing off a limb or just a little tired first time back?

Maybe not the second coming he appeared to be at this point.Supposedly sounder than he has ever been and a few days following the race could speak volumes about his future. Tough race off a long layoff can be a recipe for disaster.


Tricky day with 1st race garbage can getting 7f in 1.22 flat, unimaginable when looking at later dirt races at graded stakes level.No weather and maintenance consistent so the conclusion will be that the dirt track just got slower as the day went on. Travers raw time pathetic and will get a dose of creative license with no other routes on the day.

Wish Mo\'s nose was a few inches longer!!

Mike