G-Men

[TGJB]

Richie-- Semi-Tough is the only book I ever finished, went right back to page one, and read again.

Belichick watched the 49er game, saw how the Giants didn\'t handle the blitz in the second half. He knows the Pats have no chance to stop the Giants offense straight up, he\'s going to send everyone but the ballboy. The game rests on how the Giants handle the blitz. No opinion how that goes, but they watched the same film and have had two weeks to prepare-- no excuse for not being ready.

[BB]

Richie, I\'d like to book the one of your longshots that isn\'t \"live\". I don\'t believe Ms. Ciccone can do embarrassment.

[richiebee]

BB Wrote:
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> Richie, I\'d like to book the one of your longshots
> that isn\'t \"live\". I don\'t believe Ms. Ciccone can
> do embarrassment.


BB:

When you say \"isn\'t live\", I hope you are not implying that Madge
will be lip synching...

[Silver Charm]

Dead Solid Perfect was much better for those of us who spent a lot of time growing on a golf course.

Look for my man Big Vince Wilfork to be a beast tomorrow. Didnt exactly wear out the weight room this summer with the lock out but playing himself into shape. Probably will be used in either a bull rush situation or to play games up front for delayed blitzers to come on the attack. A rush in his face gonna make it tough for Eli to step up in the pocket.

This game goes to Overtime.....

[Wrongly]

I know there\'s a NYC bias on the track but I have to like the breeding on the Pats, despite the odds.

[twoshoes]

The difference here is bringing Bill Mott\'s barn at Eli versus Ed Barker\'s. Seriously, we\'re equating these two D\'s?

[drbillym]

Hey Frank, everyone I talk to thinks OVER, citing the potent passing of both quaterbacks and the indoor playing field preventing any weather related problems.  So why has the line dropped from 55 1/2 to 54?  Smells like under is the play.

[FrankD.]

Doc,

53.5 a couple of spots, I got down early at 54.5 believing it would rise to 56 so a lot of under play for sure but all subject to change in the next 10 hours as the real money pours in.

Just my opinion which as most of you know I\'m not shy about expressing!!!!
Brady had the worst playoff game of his career by far 2 weeks ago and can\'t see a repeat of that; also I can\'t see the Pats holding the Giants under 30 points.
Really no opinion on the outcome, I think it will be a great game decided late with both teams scoring in the 30\'s.

Good luck,

Frank D.

[miff]

Interesting that these teams were nuthin to nuthin at the half, last time they played at Foxboro.

[big18741]

Handful of 2.5\'s out there and the Wynn went as low as 2 yesterday before Pats money came in.

Interested to see where the cash goes today but Vegas needs Pats to win the game.Lots of Giant futures and money line bets.

Tough to step in front of the hot Giants but they were a 9-7 team that lost to the Redskins twice.If they play less than their A game they\'ll lose today.Maybe the two weeks cools them off some and gives Belichick time to figure out how to expose that awful Giant O-line.

Pats by 3

[alm]

I have been a Jets fan from Day One and wiped out an entire room of Colt fans in Namath\'s Super Bowl.  However, Ryan can do all the coaching you want and they still won\'t win with Sanchez.  You can\'t coach a guy to throw straight and you can\'t coach guts.  This guy is about a foot off in critical situations and he has fear in his eyes constantly.  They should have hired Sparano to play QB, not coach the QB...they\'d be better off.

As for the Super Bowl, I don\'t think the Giants\' pass rush has been overpowering.  I think it has been coached to a level of sophistication that shut down the Packers\' and 49ers\' passing lanes.  That\'s different than bull rushing, but it may not work nearly as well against Brady, who probably uses his passing options better than anyone else.  I would think Welker is a bigger factor in this game than the tight ends.  He\'s the super dangerous release receiver when everyone else is covered.

I\'ll be rooting for the Giants partly because I am a loyal New Yorker and partly because I hate the lying, cheating Bellichick.  My favorite moment in his losses to the Giants has been when there are 20 seconds left on the clock and he knows he\'s lost...the look on his face is priceless.  There\'s real pain there.

[Michael D.]

I like NE here minus the 2 1/2.

Think the Pat\'s o-line plays NY\'s front 4 to a draw, robbing the Giants of their greatest strength, and allowing Brady to light it up via the no-huddle.  

Yep, that sure is a questionable group of young men in the NE secondary, and Eli has evolved into the #1 pressure passer in the NFL, but I think the hoodman\'s bend-but-don\'t-break does enough to get the win.

Brady the likely winner if I\'m right, but I\'ll take Hernandez for MVP. Gets all kinds of touches out of the hurry-up.

[P-Dub]

drbillym Wrote:
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> Hey Frank, everyone I talk to thinks OVER, citing
> the potent passing of both quaterbacks and the
> indoor playing field preventing any weather
> related problems.  So why has the line dropped
> from 55 1/2 to 54?  Smells like under is the play.


Doc,

The public has been all over NYG and the under. I think we\'ve all seen lines move in one direction, yet lose.  Its the reverse line movement that matters, but there isn\'t any in this game.  I wouldn\'t play the under just because the line moves that way.

[drbillym]

P-Dub,
I wasn\'t thinking along the \"lines\" of how the line moved, but rather how I thought it moved in relation to the perceived consensus. In the days of Simms-Bavarro, a CBS poll showed that the public was split 50-50 on Buffalo and the Giants, yet the Giants were favored by 9.  That told me the little guy was betting Buff while the big boys were playing the jints.  Jints covered easily. Now around here in Northern Vermont, everyone is saying OVER, but my sample size is small.  So I appreciate your comments that the UNDER is being heavily bet.  Also, I had forgotten what Miff pointed out-that the first half was scoreless last match.  So no bet for me.  Will stick to the ponies today, GP R 8 P3  2,6 with 3,7 with 3,4,10.

[P-Dub]

You\'re probably talking to the smart people. Ha!!

I think people see the last Super Bowl, the last NYG/NE game, and the recent results of Giants games and think the under hits.

I\'ve been wrong plenty, but I like the over and like it a lot.

NYG has played an average Atlanta team that isn\'t good outdoors, a GB team that wasn\'t close to the team we saw all year, and a SF team that is based on defense, special teams, and running the ball.

This NE teams scores plenty, and has a defense that is mediocre.  Both teams score
plenty in this game. Combined with an indoor fast track and the over is a strong play for me.

Good luck with that Pick 3.

Also, what a performance by Ultimate Eagle yesterday. Can anyone put it in perspective, with regards to track conditions and such??  Visually very impressive.