Ragozin sold?

[alm]

richiebee Wrote:
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> So its 1964 and Howard Cosell and Cassius Clay are
> stopped at a red light in
> downtown Louisville. An attractive blonde woman
> crosses in front of their car and
> Clay catches Cosell staring at her.
>
> \"Cosell, you\'re crazy. You\'re Jewish. They\'ll kill
> you in this town for looking at
> a white woman like that.\"
>
> Weekend Recap: The dirty nose of Perfect Officer
> in the Shakertown at Keeneland
> cost me what? 2K or 3K in the all stakes P4
>
> Travel Note: Will be at Fairmount Park in southern
> Illinois Friday night,
> revisiting the leaky roof track of my misspent
> youth. I am certain that the
> horses will be slow, hoping that the beer will be
> cold.


Seriously, how could you leave that one out?  I\'m not saying he was dominant, but he seemed like an obvious contender.

[Old Mr. Boston]

Pretty sure the story is just a typo and that it meant to say \"Ragozin\'s old\" not Ragozin sold!

[TGJB]

Somebody asked them about it on their board-- and they deleted it.

[sighthound]

Business opportunity ... it\'s a wonderful thing :-)

[jalt2]

Was just on their board and another thread about this subject was posted. Curious to see if they respond.  Mr. Brown your old buddy \"Cube\" doesn\'t seem to like how your doing the Arkansas Derby figure.  He is quite the expert on figure making (tongue firmly in cheek).

Jeff

[Boscar Obarra]

They are saying on their board that Google turns up nothing, which proves that it must be a hoax.

 If it\'s not on Google it doesn\'t exist.

[richiebee]

alm Wrote:
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> richiebee Wrote:

 > Weekend Recap: The dirty nose of Perfect
> Officer
> > in the Shakertown at Keeneland
> > cost me what? 2K or 3K in the all stakes P4
> >
 
>
> Seriously, how could you leave that one out?  I\'m
> not saying he was dominant, but he seemed like an
> obvious contender.

Yeah, Alm, a little blue about it, missed a $600+ payout on a $72 ticket (4/3/4/3)
@ $.50. Biggest mistake was not spreading more in a gimmick where I had no
affinity for the shortest favorite in the sequence (Hansen).

The Tony Dutrow trained runner had many positive angles. I had used him in the BC
Turf Sprint last November, etc, etc, etc.

Agree with a lot of the points you made in your thorough weekend Derby prep
recap. With the emergence of the \"now\" horses (Bode, Gem, Dullahan) how high do
the odds drift up on Union Rags?

[Topcat]

richiebee Wrote:
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> So its 1964 and Howard Cosell and Cassius Clay are
> stopped at a red light in
> downtown Louisville. An attractive blonde woman
> crosses in front of their car and
> Clay catches Cosell staring at her.
>
> \"Cosell, you\'re crazy. You\'re Jewish. They\'ll kill
> you in this town for looking at
> a white woman like that.\"
>
> Weekend Recap: The dirty nose of Perfect Officer
> in the Shakertown at Keeneland
> cost me what? 2K or 3K in the all stakes P4
>
> Travel Note: Will be at Fairmount Park in southern
> Illinois Friday night,
> revisiting the leaky roof track of my misspent
> youth. I am certain that the
> horses will be slow, hoping that the beer will be
> cold.


. ..  site of my first sustained chartcalling stint at a thoroughbred track . . . starring Dave Gall, Ray Landing, Ev Hammond and Enoch Rea . . .

[alm]

Hey listen, we all make mistakes.  This Sunday I bet exclusively horizontal on 15 races (Keeneland, SA) never using more than 4 horses in the sequence.  I hit 13 winners, 2 cold supers, 3 tris, 3 exactas in separate races......and broke even for the day when the losers broke some potentially good p3s and 4s.  Oh well.

Regarding Union Rags and his odds, I don\'t think there\'s any way he goes below 5-1...especially if TG doesn\'t put him high in the mix.  He might be higher given the Baffert factor...a lot depends upon the perception people get about workouts.

Given Gem is working in Florida, as I think I read, he may be the underbet horse in the mix.  He gets no push from what people will be seeing at Churchill and he had the apparently slow winning time in his prep.

I hope Dullahan takes some betting...he\'s the least impressive prep winner of all of them...not a great number...not visually impressive unless you like watching the optical illusion of a closer closing on a frontrunner stopping.

I hope the Arabs and Europeans get nutty on the O\'Brien horse.  He\'s not in the mix from my point of view.  He beat Lucky Chappy (name?)...wow.  And he has to travel around the world?

Creative Cause?  I really have to give this one more thought.  He wiped out Bode, but that could be a timing thing.  He appeared to me to be hanging against Drug O\'Neill\'s SA Derby winner.  Maybe it was a slight regression?  Not sure.

If I had to bet it today, I would look for the winner among UR, Gem and Alpha because I think they all will go forward.  I would put some of the speed, TCI,Bode, Hansen and Drug\'s horse in the mix behind them.  I don\'t think there are any big surprises looming.

But I don\'t have to bet it today.

[magicnight]

\"I heard a rumor it was a breeding/racing operation in Ky but no idea if it\'s true.\"

That rumor was true. See the Rags BB for the details.

[HP]

Here\'s the link, just minutes ago.  

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/68999/davison-haddad-purchase-ragozins-the-sheets

[TGJB]

I\'ll tell you what, that says something about the Blood-Horse. That\'s the exact thing I saw as a press release 15 minutes earlier-- presented here as a news story.

I have a feeling some other shoes are going to drop...

[magicnight]

Yep. Attributed to \"Blood Horse Staff\". I hear that\'s how Judy Miller got her start.

[TGJB]

I know how she got her finish...

[Rich Curtis]

Magicnight wrote:

\"I hear that\'s how Judy Miller got her start.\"

 I\'ll leave the \"LOL\" to JB and his ilk, but that\'s a hell of a line.