Conspiracy Theory

[magicnight]

\"But the day before the Belmont, in the middle of a never before seen quarantine of horses and stringent testing,\"

The fact that these things happened at roughly the same time obviously feeds your theory, but the fact that they happened at the same time does not really add anything in terms of proof or evidence.

\"after the animal was looking spectacular for 2 weeks over the track a gallop ends his career\"

I would contend that the trainer was nursing this horse along, trying to walk the tightrope between keeping him fit with gallops and avoiding the breezes that may have put him off. You say tomato ...

[magicnight]

\"Do you just automatically believe what people tell you magic?\"

No. For example, I don\'t automatically believe conspiracy theories that are based on snippets of information that do not necessarily form a whole, from a handicapper banging on a keyboard.

[Topcat]

magicnight Wrote:
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> \"But the day before the Belmont, in the middle of
> a never before seen quarantine of horses and
> stringent testing,\"
>
> The fact that these things happened at roughly the
> same time obviously feeds your theory, but the
> fact that they happened at the same time does not
> really add anything in terms of proof or
> evidence.
>
> \"after the animal was looking spectacular for 2
> weeks over the track a gallop ends his career\"
>
> I would contend that the trainer was nursing this
> horse along, trying to walk the tightrope between
> keeping him fit with gallops and avoiding the
> breezes that may have put him off. You say tomato
> ...



. . . while announcing early-on that the horse wasn\'t going to have ONE serious work between the Preakness and Belmont . . .

. . . the air raid sirens were SCREAMING . . .

[plasticman]

We\'re not asking you to blindly believe someone on the internet, you can come up with your own theory on what happened, you don\'t have to take Sek\'s word for thing just like you don\'t have to take NYRA\'s word or O\'Neill\'s word.

[HP]

Here\'s another problem with the conspiracy theory.  

You\'re saying Dr. Hunt is lying (I see nobody is addressing this - the guy\'s name is right there in the Racing Form), there is a positive result, and NYRA is conspiring with O\'Neill to cover it up to save the sport of horse racing, because this news will destroy racing.  NYRA does this and loses a lot of money on the deal, but horse racing is saved.  For now.  And O\'Neill and Reddam benefit as well, while NYRA loses millions.  

Why not cover up the positive result, leave out Dr. Hunt (he is a loose end), let the horse run and make the money?  O\'Neill is not a New York guy, he\'s not going to be a big problem for you down the road.  If he\'s such a big cheater you can nail him with a quarantine barn when he tries to come back, IF he tries to come back, and at least you\'ve got your big payday in the bank.    

Either way you are covering up the positive result, but in one scenario you make money and in one scenario you don\'t.  Usually if you are going to go through the trouble of conspiring you are doing it to MAKE money, not LOSE money.  

HP

[magicnight]

I don\'t blindly believe anything, but if a trainer and a vet are telling the world that the horse has a hot foot, I\'m going to tend to believe that the horse has a hot foot, absent any compelling evidence to the contrary. I don\'t think Sek\'s musings reach that level, though I do commend him on the 10-1 on the Baffert.

[P-Dub]

So let me get this straight.

A horse based in California....a state that has better testing than most.....who won multiple stakes races in California......including the Santa Anita Derby.......who also won the first 2 legs of the Triple Crown.......has been nailed by of all jurisdictions NYRA.

Right.

And I\'m sure the United States government blew up the Twin Towers, right??

[Flighted Iron]

Sekrah,

  Here\'s a theory. You and I handicap the races and we freeze out 1k. I rob you blind.

[phil23]

I\'ll see your 10 and raise you to 15.  Unfortunately, also was sitting with IHA at 25\'s for the whole thing.  

\"You can get what you want and still not be very happy.\"

[Boscar Obarra]

I like a good conspiracy as well as anyone, but if that\'s what this was, they should have gone full monty and got the 100k+ in the door before a scratch.

 Think of the extra hot dog sales.

[alydar61]

LOL.

I think retirement is a bit much to give this theory creedence.

Belmont and NYRA lost the most here. The attendance just got halved.

[sighthound]

Sorry.  Larry Bramlage doesn\'t lie.

Please - drop the conspiracy theory.  Please.

[sighthound]

That was something different.  The horse has a known tendency to be shinny, and didn\'t need speed work.

[miff]

\"Yea, it\'s not like Doug O\'Neill has a history of drug violations and absurd move-ups or anything\"


Sek,

Thats the closest you\'ve come to an accurate statement.

Mike

[barn rabbit]

haahaahahahhahah try 4-1