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Perfect Drift

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Can't get the distance
« on: June 09, 2012, 05:46:25 PM »
This might have been the most ludicrous bunch of garbage I\'ve heard in the 35 years I\'ve followed racing.  It was based on NOTHING.

plasticman

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 05:55:35 PM »
Who says? He\'s a long strider who was finishing well thru the wire at a mile and a quarter after a tough trip.

chrifron

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 06:08:59 PM »
--This was a weak bunch and it didn\'t look like anyone wanted the distance. Paynter is a nice horse, but clearly was taking a huge step up into Grade 1 stakes company. Dullahan still hasn\'t won on dirt--the rest aren\'t even in the discussion of this  3 YO crop.

 Johnny V. was hugely responsible for the win--similar ride to the one he gave in Rags to Riches\' Belmont. It was kind of poetic justice that Castellano got off UR and on Pletcher\'s horse in FL, and then JV wins with him.

  I don\'t think Leparoux cost UR the Derby--IHA and BM were tons the best. I am happy that Matz is somewhat vindicated by the win today, but I don\'t think this stamps UR as a contender for future honors--a nice horse and he will win a few more, but no way is he the best of his generation.

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2012, 06:11:12 PM »
Assuming the track didn\'t change speed too much from the Brooklyn UR won\'t get better than a 2, and will be a serious bet-against for at least a couple of races.
TGJB

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 06:24:44 PM »
Atigun probably getting a similar number (4w for part of 2nd turn)...who was unplaced in three stakes attempts going in.

It was a commendable performance by the the top three.

Perfect Drift

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 06:38:13 PM »
You must not have been watching or listening to 90% of the experts.

miff

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2012, 06:53:07 PM »
Dirt track not as fast as yesterday, like minus 51,slower.
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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2012, 06:53:14 PM »
Leparoux did not get the memo about moving too soon.

Michael D.

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 06:59:03 PM »
Drift, I like the horse too, but he ran around in 2:30.4 while saving much of the ground. Not exactly flying.

Still, when it came time to prove who was best in 2012 Belmont Stakes, one horse excelled. And he won.

And I wouldn\'t be afraid to play UR to crash through the \'2\' lvl this summer.

plasticman

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 08:07:29 PM »
Experts?

plasticman

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 08:08:41 PM »
Things might have changed had the 3 drawn post 4 and the 4 drawn post 3. The winner was \'in the way\' of the 3PF all the way. Switch trips and the longshot probably wins.

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 08:24:39 PM »
FWIW, I thought Dullahan looked terrible during the post parade (Similar to Hansen).  I made a comment to those around me to cancel their bets on the #5.  He did not want to run today.

phil23

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 09:12:44 PM »
Yep agreed.  I\'m the last person to judge who a horse looks in pp but even I noted that he looked really washy and not great.   Wish Mikey had cut that hole off...ugh.

FrankD.

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2012, 09:54:10 PM »
Your all missing the point!!!

Once IHA scratched, no one was going to run with Paynter; 9,4,3 at a mile in 38 plus, 3,9,4,1 at the end with Chad Brown\'s piece the only closer running at the end.

What was Mike Smith doing in the stretch? In Days of old Johnny V. would have been put over the fence if his agent was riding Paynter.

A very pedestrian generation of 3 year olds IMHO with supreme efforts by IHA in the Preakness & Bode in the Derby.

Frank D.

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Re: Can't get the distance
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2012, 11:13:03 PM »
Smith is a great Hall of Fame rider and class person. He outsprinted Trinnenburg in the Derby and was ALL gentleman in the stretch today! Not his best Triple Crown.....