What would you do with Verrazano?

[TGJB]

Threading the needle as far as getting in, but this raises the question that comes up sometimes about bringing pitchers back on short rest in game 6 of a playoff series. Which is, are you trying to get to game seven, or give yourself the best chance to win the whole thing? If you use the guy in game 6 he probably won\'t be as good as in game seven, so your overall chance of winning the series goes down.

In this case the approach of coming in fresh gives the best chance of running well in the Derby (and especially after that), while decreasing the chance of running IN the Derby. The good news is that unlike with the World Series five minutes after they cross the wire people start talking about the Preakness, and then there\'s the Travers, and the BC...

Very hard for me to root for the guy who owns Vyjack for personal reasons.

[covelj70]

Speaking of verazaano physical, funny story

When verazaano walked into the paddock on Saturday, my 8 yr old daughter said, \"daddy, why doesn\'t our horse look like that horse.\"

I said \"because daddy works for a living sweethart\"

Then after the race she says \"I told you that horse looked better than our horse.\"

By the way, Tampa treats owners as well as any place I have ever been.  What a wonderful experience down there.

Great weekend of racing.

[TGJB]

You should have introduced her to Allday, he could answer her question.

[miff]

JB,

Great pitcher Verlander may be a perfect example, got rocked by the puny hitting Giants and lost like 7 of 11 after throwing 130 pitches in prior start.Guy was worn out.

Re Vyjack,Rudy proving to be stand up guy so I\'ll root to the extent of how I gamble.The Clueless Clowns went after Rudy, a la Tricky, with a barrage of surprise barn visits over a 30 day period with 24 hr scrutiny, got nuthin!

Little known that Rudy\'s brother John(Juan) was Trickys numero uno assistant for years(now with Rudy) and Rudy worked close with Bobby Frankel for a few years.Same vets/farriers/et al for Rudy who shows up early every cold morning and leaves late in the evening.

Verranzano just announced for the Wood and with a few other nice ones pointing there it may be the defining derby prep.


Mike

[TGJB]

Since you play NY daily I\'m sure you\'ve already seen them, but maybe I\'ll post a few of Rudy\'s recent move-ups. I\'m more concerned about when the vet gets there and leaves than I am when he does, regardless of what NYRA found. And the least surprising thing would be connections to Dutrow and Frankel-- both Allday clients.

Keep in mind that my comments about Allday are not simply based on looking at sheets. He admitted a whole load of stuff himself, in detail, to a room full of Jockey Club members. Actually, admitted is the wrong word-- he was proud of it. The deal was whatever you said there could not be used against you, and it was his chance to crow.

[miff]

Funny,since they pushed back on time frames for legal stuff,esp Clen b, the same guys are winning, some a higher strike rate.

NY racing sad, a new politically appointed board member told a clocker friend that he will move to ban NYRA clockers from betting. With all the contentious matters facing the game, barring clockers from gambling, Brilliant!!

[covelj70]

Jb, this was a great one.

I am laughing out loud.

That horse had more dapples on Saturday than I have fat cells.

He needed weight against that field like I needed another piece of pecan pie in the owners room.

What a game though. Awesome experience down there.

[covelj70]

By the way, our jockey in the paper said he can\'t wait to race against Verazzano again with a different post. Let me be clear that he stands alone in that view.

We are certainly going to go forward and try to make the derby but it will be in a race where we don\'t have that freak job laying all over us for 7 furlongs while getting 4 lbs.

[TGJB]

Give me 3-1, I\'ll bet he won\'t be in the gate for the Derby.

[miff]

....what a sport!

[TGJB]

I make it about even money. If they trained him up to it much better chance to make it, but they\'re in a box, can\'t. Wood is a GI (which he needs to be a stallion) and they would be putting all their eggs in one basket, jumping to 1 1/4.

Wood may be some kind of betting race. Coming up as tough as the La. Derby is light.

[miff]

Was talking the \"Mush\" factor.

[TGJB]

Staten Island expression?

[miff]

JB,

Shocked you\'ve never come across that term.Mush was a character in A Bronx Tale,(I think).Jimbo, the uber-Mush, an expert on the subject!

Mush-ing is like jinxing, so by saying you would give Cov 3-1 against his horse making it to the derby, you were \"mush-ing\" him.


Mike

[richiebee]

covelj70 Wrote:
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> We are certainly going to go forward and try to
> make the derby but it will be in a race where we
> don\'t have that freak job laying all over us for 7
> furlongs while getting 4 lbs.

Jim:

Or you could stay off the Derby trail altogether. Look at the resume of Smarten,
who was on the board for 15 of 17 starts as a 3YO (1979), winning six graded
stakes along the way, all while Woody Stephens did his best to keep his very
talented colt away from champion Spectacular Bid.

Not that there are any Spectacular Bids in this years 3YO crop, but there is
plenty of gelt available off the Triple Crown gauntlet.

Smarten lived to the ripe old age of 27, and sired the dam of top stallion Smart
Strike.