What would you do with Verrazano?

[joekay]

With all respect, everything I\'m reading on this post gives the impression that you felt you really didn\'t have a chance to beat V in the race.  That\'s what I thought also; putting a saver on you for the win and a strong exacta with you underneath. When you cleared  V for the lead, I was hoping you\'d stay a little wide and keep V inside of you instead of outside where he could exert pressure.  In other words, run to finish 2nd and pick up some extra points.  Was any thought given to that race strategy?  I\'m one of your fans back to Screenplay days ( was he the $15 -$20K closer?), anyway hope you make the Derby and thanks for all your posts.

[covelj70]

There are alot of variables that go into why we chose a given race. In this case it had to do with 2 things, first, we didn\'t want to ship for this race because we will likely wind up shipping for the next race. We thoght alot about shipping to the Gotham where I would have liked our chances alot more but sometimes you win a battle and lose a war. In this case, I think we lost a battle but are still pretty well positioned in the war if the war is defined as making the derby.

The other variable we like to isolate when we can is track surface. I personally feel as if this is one of the most underrated issues in handicapping. Different horses are built to run better on certain tracks than others and we knew he liked Tampa.

He was training great as I posted before the race and indeed he ran a nice number in the race on the thorograph. I said before hand Verazzano was 15 lengths better than the field on his best but I share JBs view that he is highly unlikely to make the derby for alot of reasons.

Thanks for the message. Good to see the board heating up as usual this time of year.

[covelj70]

Oh man. I cheated Tim Robbins there. Apologies. Great quote either way!

[Lost Cause]

covelj70 Wrote:
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> By the way, our jockey in the paper said he can\'t
> wait to race against Verazzano again with a
> different post. Let me be clear that he stands
> alone in that view.
>

I don\'t know what Jose is talking about there..an inside post results in the same thing..i\'m trying to figure out what Jose\'s rush was to get to the lead..your horse has shown tractibility before and I thought he was in a good place on the outside of Verrazano, sticking him on the rail and stalking...You could see Johnny V wanted him off the rail by veering off of it sharply to get to your outside so why jump out in front and allow Verrazanno to stalk when you can stalk and slow it down..Instead Jose rushes to the lead and gets pressed and fades..if he is on the outside he controls his own pace, if he can\'t get by the winner fine but he can go his own pace and hold second at least..Now if that was the pre-game plan then I take it back but I thought the post draw was great from a tactical point of view...It\'s almost always better to be the stalking speed than the \"stalkee\"..Hope it works out better next race for you Jim..


edit...jusy saw Joekay posted something similar sorry..

[miff]

\"Since you play NY daily I\'m sure you\'ve already seen them, but maybe I\'ll post a few of Rudy\'s recent move-ups\"

JB,

Just heard Rudy getting days for Flunixin, they gotta find more than that,no?

Mike

[TGJB]

You know, it\'s funny. After I posted that I ran all his starters for 3 months. He has 3-4 insane moveups (6-9 points for heavily raced horses), all taking place in about 10 days, and nothing else suspicious. Tough to figure.

[miff]

Positives were old,one from 4/12, the other 11/12, one winner one third.Tricky had Flunixin positives too, from memory.Used to be permitted 24 hrs out, don\'t know if that changed.


Mike