We have been warned

[mbeychok]

Twitter Post from our favorite VET:

Dr. Steve Allday ‏@Fourlegsdoc 24m

Had the privilege of seeing some horses at TAP Stable today. Should not come as a surprise when he \"runs the table\" in The Oaks & Derby!

[miff]

Yep,\"stuff\" works 20 days out,Brilliant!

[TGJB]

A) Where do you get this was his last visit, B) some drugs (EPO and steroids for example) are not raceday drugs.

I\'m not coming to any conclusions about Pletcher\'s Oaks and Derby runners until I see how his other horses run Derby week.

[miff]

That theory of yours is played out for some years now.Pletcher, his assistants, owners and vets have a far flung undetectable illegal drug thing going on.

Oakie dokie!

[TGJB]

You mean the \"theory\" that Allday admitted to?

[sighthound]

They test for EPO.

[miff]

Again, you say many things that are not verifiable, lots of innuendo no facts.So,according to you,Allday outed himself re EPO,then turns around and continues to do what you claim he admitted to,illegally using EPO.

Makes perfect sense.

[TGJB]

Again-- per a very recent discussion with Rick Arthur, what they\'re doing now, which is giving it 4 and 14 days out, doesn\'t test, unless you have out of competition testing. Period.

[sighthound]

Everyone needs to read this short article from 2009

http://www.vet.upenn.edu/portals/0/images/Bellwether_general/bw70-spring09/Bellwether%20Spring%2009%20Scoping%20Out%20Doping.pdf

\"Scoping Out Doping - How Penn State Researchers Put The Brakes On Performance-Enhancing Drugs in Race Horses\"

[sighthound]

It also doesn\'t make new red blood cells that can carry oxygen in that short amount of time.

[sighthound]

They DO out of competition testing, don\'t they?

[TGJB]

It\'s absolutley verifiable, it\'s not innuendo, it was a plain statement of fact in front of a roomful of VIP\'s. And as I have made clear it doesn\'t test.

Which is NOT to say it\'s necessarily what he\'s doing now. But what we do know is he has admitted doing it in the past, so there\'s no question he would cheat.

And use your head. If I was saying this about you publicly-- making a statement of fact about an admission you had made-- and it wasn\'t true, would you be keeping your mouth shut?

[TGJB]

NO. They did at the BC, to some degree. And California is doing some now.

[sighthound]

They are doing out of competition at the Derby.

[sighthound]

Jerry - Steve Allday has said on the radio, to the general public, that he used to use EPO before it was banned, and he wasn\'t the only one.  Said it a few years back.  

He didn\'t say it only to the Jockey Club.

Race track vets used to milkshake, too, before that was banned, as a common practice.

If it wasn\'t illegal, it was done.