Dark Cove

[TGJB]

A lifetime making a living in this industry. If you think that\'s nothing, try it.

[fjmb]

High Roller... your an effin idiot.

[mbeychok]

You could be right that there was nothing noteworthy. He did run in the money in most of his starts but i suspect his thorograph number improved greatly in the start and he certainly didn\'t look like a 10 time maiden in the last 16th of a mile but you could be right that there is nothing to see...move along.

michael

[plasticman]

HR, the name of the game is 1) Picking winners and 2) Making money off those winners. Trainers know the specific condition of their own runner and the day to day health of such steed, but that doesnt have a heck of a lot to do with the ability to make money at the windows.

I didnt realize Jerry or anyone else for that matter, needed to have a degree from vet school in order to have a quality opinion on horses, drugs or anything related to the pursuit of picking winners and cashing bets.

[bellsbendboy]

JB  I pretty much posted all i know about the chambers and their effects.

I think you have me confused with a later person who posted on that thread about competition; who they ran against should be off grounds to a figure maker.

My \"compelling\" case, if it was that, concerned only Dark Cove, although i responded earlier to Michael\'s post about another Maker winner.

I am familiar with your product and endorse it if asked but for me i am a bit more traditional.  The quote \"time only matters if you are taking pills\" or \"if you are in jail\" is more my style.  

Looking forward to your Derby analysis and casnnot remember a Derby where so much hinges on the draw. bbb

[Edgorman]

High Roller. What the f--k is your agenda???  You should go away.

[TGJB]

The post I linked this to is the one I was referring to. Whether or not it was a \"weak field\" and other class questions are distinctly separate from how fast DC ran.

[plasticman]

BBB, the blood tests and the hyperbaric chamber stuff only would hold some weight if the previous trainer did none of these things. I have to imagine that most trainers in the game today also do blood tests and other high tech stuff, especially at the higher ends of the game.

I would love to see what McPeek did for this horse when he was racing, than we might know for sure what Maker did differently to make this horse break thru to run the best race of his career.

[TGJB]

For real comedy (as opposed to comity)-- after going after me here yesterday he went back \"across the street\" (his term on their board) and got slapped over there for going after me too. Points to Raz.

[Tavasco]

www.makerstables.com which has a tab \"daily racing\" listing his starters chronologically including owners, result, etc. site includes telephone & email address

[makomaniac]

Where is the oversight from racing officials? Where are the investigative reporters in the industry? These \"cheaters\" have completely ruined the game.I still can\'t understand why veteran trainers who have been in the game forever and have suddenly forgot how to train and win don\'t \"blow the whistle\" and get a law enforcement agency involved. This is race fixing!!!!

Keeneland was completely unplayable with this nonsense. It was like Tampa Bay with Ness. Their handle has dropped significantly recently as a result of these super trainers.It is one thing to develop between 2yo and 3yo seasons but to start running new tops at 5and 6yos without a surface or distance change is absurd!!

[Rich Curtis]

Enough points to get him unbanned?

[bellsbendboy]

No issues Michael.

Perfect Jeff, evidently has had some physical issues and certainly for his style has encountered some woeful setups, trips and course conditions.

The winner in the other half of the split was a tick or two faster and on raw that seems an easy \"match\" to put a figure, on both.  Not that two turn grass heats are easy to \"score\"!

While Perfect Jeff may have improved his TG, and the visually impressive late foot, I would call it a home game and may want to bet against him in his next.  He figures ( bad word) a short price in a one x and the race is probably on a weekday tossing him a very bad hand indeed!  bbb

[TGJB]

Thanks. I have the ability to run a trainers runners in a date range (for exactly this purpose, when I\'m looking to buy or claim from someone I want to know what I\'m dealing with). What I don\'t have is the ability to do it by owner, and Maker\'s site doesn\'t appear to solve that-- won\'t have Ramsey\'s starters with Catalano, etc.

[TGJB]

Yeah. That was pretty good.