Question for the board

[miff]

Yea, but with a track capable of changing speeds from minute to minute, or hour to hour, looking back days or weeks to a previous race, re track speed today,is irrelevant, but in any case, by how much a track changed speed, a pure guess.

I wonder how the question was posed to Mick, because the answer you say he gave is not in his makeup, ie making too many assumptions.

[TGJB]

I emailed you the whole email exchange with Peterson from 10 years ago, too much work to put it together for presentation here. You can report back to the masses.

Every single scientist I approached who had studied racing surfaces said the same thing about them changing throughout the day, they are quoted in the Archives presntation.

[rhagood]

Interesting read on more subjective cause and effect from the other side of the pond: https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/california-chrome-and-belmont-defence-victor-espinoza

[Tavasco]

rhagood:
The Euro article makes sense to me. It is logically sound. Thanks!  

What actually happened, as I currently understand it, is one TAP horse rushed up, pinned CC against the rail and stepped on his foot. A second TAP horse got in front of CC and slowed the pace to a crawl. The angry neophyte owner used the word cheaters.

A 200K bet on the (11/1 = 9/1) winner as/after the race starts. And I thought the Ragozin board poster expecting 3/1 on Tonalist was deluded. Tapit is now a stamina influence?

For a Wall Street Celebrity to even ask the original question is no coincidence.

[miff]

Sticking to the obvious.CC was over the top and could not finish the last quarter in 25.68 to win the TC,it was that simple.Over a Belmont surface that was as glib as any in his past 5 races, his sharp late run was absent.Check his last split in the Belmont vs his 5 previous races.Not a late pace fig guy but they had to drop off in the Belmont vs his previous figs as did his whole fig.

Five fast performances in a row finally wore him down enough for a couple of slower types to outrun him. Also doubt they beat him at any distance on near his best day.The foot, the inside, the race riding,if any, were all irrelevant if he was not a tired horse. That was unknown from sources that observed him for two weeks as he outwardly looked fine.

Simple look at his TG sheet tells the story clearly, he bounced.

[TGJB]

I bounced off the floor when I read you using the word bounced. Kool aid with breakfast today?

[Tavasco]

Have you, or has anyone else, learned anything worth sharing about the source of the rumored $200K win bet.

[Tavasco]

Congrats om last Sunday\'s 5th if that was you! The last 5/16 looked exciting from the chart.

[miff]

Dan B from West Palm beach kennel who won the $6.6 million pick six at Gulf,rumored to have hit the Belmont for app $1.8 million.Dont know if it was the $200K win bet or exotics.Know he liked Tonalist.