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richiebee

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Social Inclusion
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:02:36 PM »
I was thinking earlier today to compose a post regarding the quirky and fast Social
Inclusion, that it was about time to put this speedy but underachieving colt under
the roof of another trainer, that maybe trainer Manny Azpurua (who at 85 has
probably literally forgotten more about training than many will ever know) was a bit
overmatched by this headstrong fellow.

The trainers I was thinking of were (to me) obvious choices: Mott or Pletcher (East
Coast), Baffert or Hollendorfer out west.

About an hour ago Rontos Stable announced that SI would be headed to Saratoga to
join Chad Brown\'s string. I think there is a lot of upside with this fella, who is
fast and relatively sound. Hopefully Chad Brown and his staff can work on SI\'s pre-
race demeanor and gate behavior and we will be able to see him reach his full
potential.
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Boscar Obarra

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 10:51:32 PM »
About time, that horse clearly needs a different regimen .   Totally lost it at MTH.
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TMW

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 11:43:12 PM »
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FrankD.

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 05:41:16 AM »
Uncle Bill Spilliane and I had this very conversation at the track yesterday; its about time, actually months overdue.

This is obviously a very talented horse but Chad will need to turn him out and start from scratch. Whatever Azpura has done to this horse, he is a wreck mentally. I don\'t know if there is enough time left this year to fix him but it would be nice to see him in capable hands come back as a 4 yr old. If he had been sold for the 8 million back in April he would have already been retired.

Good luck,

Frank D.
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Ollie

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 08:27:03 AM »
As John Kennedy once said, \"The time to repair the roof is when the sun is shining.\"


Even though the sun may be shining with a positive move to the C.C. Brown barn, but SI was under a cloud of mis-management for his first 3 1/2 years, which caused a deluge of bad habits to be developed. Hell, the horse was just reacting to, and trying to survive --- mis-management issues amongst other things. They might be better off hiring & consulting a horse whisperer, before sending the horse to anybody else to train, finding out what the horse was now thinking and feeling. But, consistent with the mis-management style and thinking --- there was never, ever was a problem.
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TMW

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 09:36:12 AM »
I know what my old trainer Wally Dollase would do -- geld him. Maybe sounds crazy but they need to make a race horse out of him.
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touchgold

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 12:02:14 PM »
How about putting him in an easier spot?
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BH

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Re: Social Inclusion
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 04:26:23 PM »
Not crazy at all.

I worked at the track for years and we were sent a colt once with specific instructions not to let him out of the stall until he had been gelded because he was so unmanageable.

When the vet did the work he immediately saw one of the testes was very badly bruised and he said at the time we would probably see an immediate change in the horse\'s attitude. Doc said it was probably being bruised while the horse was moving on the track.

Sure enough overnight he turned into the gentlest,best behaved horse in the barn.

Take the pain away and anything can happen.
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