Late bet downs

[Boscar Obarra]

They were betting on horses for 100 years without worrying about bleeding.

 All of a sudden its a deal killer?

[Beau]

\"They\" were betting for a 100 years... NOT ME! Yes, a deal killer for me.

If you place wagers HOW can you be confident in your bet with horses running without lasix?

[Boscar Obarra]

As long as they can run faster than the other horses without lasix, I\'m good.

[Beau]

Ohh... you know the ones that won\'t bleed... Cool

[richiebee]

Beau Wrote:
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> One more thing... What about us, the bettor,
> player, gambler, or punter? We get the shaft if
> they ban lasix. How in the world are you going to
> tell if your horse that you bet is about to bleed?
> I know I won\'t be placing any wagers on horses
> that\'s for sure. I may as well try greyhounds. LOL

Yes the absence of LASIX will add uncertainty to the game.

One thing I am certain of however is that at this very moment the folks who
develop equine PEDs are working feverishly to develop an undetectable
organic/synthetic substitute for LASIX.

We need to go back to the 1980s, when the only runners who were treated with
LASIX were runners who bled (visibly) during a workout or a race. I am aware that
high tech diagnostic tools developed since the 1980s now show that almost all
runners bleed to some extent during/ after exertion, and that there are those who
believe that not to allow even slight bleeders to be treated with a diuretic is
inhumane; I think this is a rather extreme position.

[Beau]

Fair enough!

I am totally against the BAN of a medication that is scientifically proven to help the horse.

This is a different era now. The technology and information today is far more advanced than when LASIX was not allowed in United States.

[miff]

\"I am totally against the BAN of a medication that is scientifically proven to help the horse\"

Beau,


Science aside,as a player/gambler, how could one possibly be against the use of lasix?

Mike

[TGJB]

Richie-- that second paragraph is dead on. And whatever they use won\'t be listed in the program.

[Boscar Obarra]

I\'ll assume Beau is a youngster that didn\'t play when Lasix was not used.

 He must imagine buckets of blood and pulled up horses in every race.

[TGJB]

What you need to assume is that things will go back to when Lasix was being used and nobody knew. Well, almost nobody-- horses that had been stopping would be 15-1 on the ML, go of at 5/2 and run off the screen.

Ah, the good old days.

There will be something used, and it won\'t be in the program.

[Boscar Obarra]

I recall at MTH in the late 70\'s( ??)  they would post the LX horses in the Racing Sec\'s office, but nothing in the program.

 Normally I don\'t post proprietary info like that but I feel that 30+ years is beyond the statute of limitations.

[TGJB]

Yes. After a while they did that, and a few people who understood what it was worth-- and could get it-- made a lot of money.

Now imagine it\'s not posted anywhere. And it\'s happening every day on a large scale.

[Boscar Obarra]

I knew about the postings, but I don\'t think I had a full appreciation  of the significance.

 Live and learn.

[Beau]

Exactly Mike

[Beau]

Boscar,

Yeah... I\'m 40 years old and didn\'t bet during the non lasix days but I do not think anything near buckets of blood or anything else. I\'m thinking about how anyone could confidently place a wager if they ban lasix, that\'s all.

Beau