New Ragozin PP Product

[TGJB]

Anybody know anyone who has bought them?

[touchgold]

have not bought them....but they offer a free one every week....basically looks like running lines with the sheet number also there....so u see numbers but not on a different  page..it also has a pace projector and  trainer stats

[TGJB]

I know what they are, I\'m trying to figure out if there\'s really a market for something like that at $35. Seems to me the only people who would even consider it would be those switching from their other product.

[prist]

Yeah, you guys created a monster. :-) New competitors are using your guys pricing structure. The product must be as good as yours if the price is the same, right? Well, that\'s what the reasoning seems like to me.

No, I haven\'t seen anyone using them.

[gohorse]

They are using Timeform PP. Must have partnered with them. I would not use them for free.You might as well just buy sheets. It might work with more mainstream PP.

[TGJB]

I considered doing something similar at a much lower price, as a low end product. I didn\'t because I didn\'t want to cannibalize my own customer base, and I assume that\'s why they\'re going for $35. But if there really is a market for that thing-- which I doubt-- it wouldn\'t be a problem to undercut them (with much better figures, too) and take it away.

[prist]

Some people like the bells & whistles, I guess ... apparently even some sheet methodology disciples ... [cryptic]

[Bet Twice]

I don\'t think the concept gets any new customers....it\'s just a convenience thing for existing customers.  I\'ve checked out their free race of the week...on one hand it\'s nice to have some PPs with splits, etc....but for someone who is used to seeing things laid out on a grid it\'s tough to get used to....form cycles, etc. aren\'t as readily apparent.  If TG offered them I would probably try them out but by not having them it certainly wouldn\'t cause me to switch over to Rags.

[TGJB]

So evidently the answer is no, nobody knows anyone who has bought them.

[Rich Curtis]

Victory Gallup?

[TGJB]

Last I heard he\'s in Turkey, and if he\'s buying Ragozin I have a real problem. On several levels.

[richiebee]

Nothing worse than a low volume client looking for handouts, but I miss the
discounted late P4s from the Stronach tracks...

[shanahan]

Agree on that late pik 4 product.  I think I bought it every day available.

[FrankD.]

A GREAT week to kick it off with the X-Country pick 4 starting on Saturday.
Donn & Gulf Turf Handicap in FL with the San Antonio & San Marcus in Cali

[firmturf]

I have a friend that purchased it but he\'s only a once a month player. He emailed me about the new set up, I deleted his e-mail and have not seen the product in person.