when do the derby pre-entries go on sale...thanks...

[CHOWDERMAN]

that is all

[RICH]

the derby prep numbers are leaking out of 11th street, how about over here, should make for some interesting discussions, when can we expect the special

[TGJB]

Early next week, which is when we did it last year.

[miff]

11th Street has Dortmund moving backwards, rather substantially, in the SA Derby....Brilliant!!

[TGJB]

They actually moved out to Long Island City, from what I hear.

Yeah, my intellectually honest friend over there posted he ran 7 plus on their stuff.

[mjellish]

I also heard they have Carpe Diem as the fastest horse along with Upstart, other than maybe whatever AP ran in the ARK Derby.

[miff]

AP\'s last fastest with a fig like TG 0...Upstart second fastest like TG 1\'s

[reboundman]

I saw somewhere in my twitter timeline that he was given a 4-.

[toppled]

Yep, Justin Zayat posted it on Twitter.  


Justin Zayat @JustinZayat  
  ·   Apr 13    
American Pharoah 4- on Ragozins. Mr. Z  9 @jazz3162

 https://twitter.com/justinzayat

[mjellish]

Then Materiality must have about the same figure as Upstart because the weights were equal, he won by 1.5 but saved more ground.

I am really curious how TGJB has the Bluegrass rated.  Beyer had it slow and I didn\'t see it that way.  But I\'m not a professional figure make either.