add another thanks here, was at a party and they put in charge of a bankroll. was confused all day, bet very sparingly, to the point where the \"shareholders\" were (good-naturedly) giving me $hit. while they were eating sat alone in front of the monitor and made one of those snap decisions to roll with this one. had about fifty people going ape$hit during the stretch run, made me hero for a day. best part was after scoring out we all decided to just sit and watch the big one with a few token bets, just rooting for a triple crown. a spectacular day: still had to bet the thing right (easy enough for me to screw up, LOL) but thanks for pointing me (and apparently a lot of us) in the right direction.