Upstart Vaults From Jim Dandy to Amory's Race, It Says Here

[MonmouthGuy]

My biggest question on Upstart is whether he has can use the PP draw to get a ground saving trip and then angle out in stretch, or is he a horse that needs to race wide.

[Wrongly]

Upstart ran big when fresh at GP, I\'ll take 10/1 on him and hope Competitive Edge or Mr. Jordan goes after AP early to soften him up.  Jim Dandy looks more like a Jim Dud now with defections.

[johnnym]

Just don\'t see the champ going down here..my opinion he is still improving as well. Good luck to you JB

[pizzalove]

I agree with Ring here.  I too have been betting against AP with no luck.  Drooling for some good opportunities.  I was hoping upstart would match up with him later at juicier odds.  Wanted to not bet this one and have AP win easily and then load up against him in one of the next two.  But now with Upstart in I have to bet him.  

its funny the speed horse in here that ran on derby day would have won the derby on that day.  Lets just hope all have learned a lesson and they go after AP from the start rather than waiting, waiting,......

A little concerned about the inside post for Upstart.  Seemed on derby day he really hated the dirt in his face.

[jerry]

Who cares. There are better places to find a 5-1 shot. Why blow good powder here? Cause it\'s the Haskell?

[Tavasco]

With what is left of my voice, which is not much, ole #2 looked good for a long time I agree with you a live 5/1 horses with no who doesn\'t have to beat a triple crown champion in his prime can be found every day and powder is precious.

Here\'s my take that no one has mentioned, I don\'t see AP a classic distance horse. Yes he won a triple crown but my point is he that he is even better at a shorter distance.

Pletcher may come after him in waves but AP wins in a walk with Upstart the cheapest exacta I\'ll look elsewhere also.

[jbelfior]

Agree. His Arkansas Derby was scary.

Good Luck,
Joe B

[drbillym]

or show you the koolaid

[TGJB]

Whatever the result of the race, I have to say I\'m flabbergasted at what has happened to this board.

[heatherk]

Seriously JB,\"flabergasted\".Any # for the 5 @ MNR?

[johnnym]

This board rocks in my opinion.

[TGJB]

Yes, I could have used a much stronger word. This is a TG board, not a fanboy or voodoo board. We handicap using performance figures.

If the track stayed the same at GP that day ( a big if if, hence the box, for now) around a 9-10 for the Mnr 2yo.

[jerry]

A lot of us are still shell shocked by his derby.

[heatherk]

Thanks JB.

[TGJB]

Don\'t know why, but it\'s not the shellshock board either.

This is a game of percentages. This is supposed to be the most sophisticated board in the industry, everyone is expected to realize that, among other things.