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Gerard

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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2015, 02:42:02 PM »
Ill-Bred,

Congratulations to you and everyone involved with Runhappy!! I\'ll go eat my hat now.

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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2015, 02:53:42 PM »
Yes, on raw times that\'s true.

Remind me late in the week when I have time, I\'ll post both races from that day. Run Happy is the only one from that race who has run faster, assuming this is a new top, which is likely. Almost no shot I got it wrong, at least on what you can tell so far.
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miff

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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2015, 03:02:17 PM »
JB,

Runhappy and PZ raced 30 minutes apart on 8/29 and you felt track changed speed, a very tough sell.Only TG has PZ faster than Runhappy on 8/29 even after adjusting for weight. Going off the horses vs clock, when there are other races at the same distance, a slippery slope imo.

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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2015, 03:21:57 PM »
And yet, we have what they have done before and since to look at.

The whole point of figures is that they correlate to future figures. If they don\'t there\'s no point using them.
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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2015, 03:25:59 PM »
Most of the time but many horses run a fig that they never repeat, ever.
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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2015, 03:31:10 PM »
Yes. Exactly. That\'s why we look at all the horses in the race, not just the winners.
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Furious Pete

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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2015, 03:32:51 PM »
I can\'t see anything wrong with Runhappys past figures, this horse is a winner who have ran neg 1,75 and neg 1 in the last two with trouble in his last, a developing 3yo who did his greatest race today when he needed it the most, nothing shocking there imo. Got a good trip too and Private Zone was used hard. If you ever tried to make figures yourself you would know that it would be silly to just go by the raw times because it\'s not just about track speed when you\'re making figures. This is actually why the TG-figs are superior overall. Even though they always could be better.

Ill-bred

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Re: Private Zone is Not a 21 horse
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2015, 09:54:07 PM »
Thanks guys. I loved seeing Runhappy have to pass horses to get the win.

I watched the race from the winner\'s circle around the 1/8 pole, and I could tell he was digging in and cutting into PZ at that point. It was one of those moments...