Urgent: Larry Jones and the Mischievous Elf

[imallin]

Anyone know why Pino was fired? I just saw the replay and not sure what he did wrong...except get outrun late by 2 better animals.

[miff]

Pino moved about an eighth too soon and deserves jail more than Paris for that ride.If HS isn\'t spent from all the early wars he\'s been in, watch what a real jockey does with him.


Mike

[cubfan0316]

and how is mr.tom gonna get his moo juice in her? pre-race test and a post race test = no filly for me.

[imallin]

he didnt move too soon. He never moved on that horse. The top 2 were cooked and came to a crawl, so it APPEARED like he \'moved\'. That horse is a free runner, he was letting that horse run at the speed he was comfortable with. i didnt see anything wrong with the ride. its not like he \'moved into\' curlin and SS, he sat there and 2 ridiculous horses went backwards which made the optical ill that he \'moved\'

[NoCarolinaTony]

Miff,

Tell me why you are so high on Garrett Gomez. Like to hear your opinion.

NC Tony

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

I\'m also not convinced taking Pino off was the wisest move and considering what they replaced him with its a negative, but here are the facts:

.23.53, 46.65, 1.09.80, 1.34.68

.23.53, 23.12, 23.15, 24.88

Hard Spun was running smooth and when C.P. West ranged up. Pino scrubbed on Hard Spun and he leapt to the front. Visually its all there, but the interior fractions tell the story. Clearly, a premature move and so hard to comprehend because it was Pino\'s backyard. Pressure does things to people. I don\'t think he\'d muck it up again though.

imallin Wrote:
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> he didnt move too soon. He never moved on that
> horse. The top 2 were cooked and came to a crawl,
> so it APPEARED like he \'moved\'. That horse is a
> free runner, he was letting that horse run at the
> speed he was comfortable with. i didnt see
> anything wrong with the ride. its not like he
> \'moved into\' curlin and SS, he sat there and 2
> ridiculous horses went backwards which made the
> optical ill that he \'moved\'

[davidrex]

Glad to see other \"brownies\" look at re-plays too.
Pino has lived at Pimlico for decades and DID NOT move too early.
Letting the reins out a little on the horse does not constitute an early move.
The fact that Spun refused to control his speed was evident when Pino tried to restrain him from accelerating to an all-out drive.
If Spun is a one run animal ,then Pino is solely responsible.
He\'ll be a great miler if only a single move horse and maybe the most improved distance horse if he can learn to control his great athleticism.

[miff]

Imallin,

What were you looking at, he moved into a 45 change half with two horse in front of him that had no chance.Worst big race ride in a long time.

Mike

[miff]

NC Tony,


Watch all his rides,can\'t remember too many jockeys finishing as strongly as he is right now.Of course he\'s getting all live mounts but after him, Prado and Johnny V the list of top jockeys gets a little thin,imo


Mike

[imallin]

The timer doesnt mean anything. All that matters is how comfortable the horse is moving. That horse is of HIGH cruising speed. He was under a hold when he passed the 2 longshots who were totally done. Even the owner doesn\'t know....he said on an inteview \"he wanted hard spun \'tucked in\'.\"

TUCKED IN BEHIND WHO?

There was NO WAY that Pino cld have kept hard spun from passing the 2 leaders on the backstretch, hard spun can\'t go that slow.

if you want the horse to rate better, get a better trainer, a trainer who can train the horse who can relax.

[miff]

\"There was NO WAY that Pino cld have kept hard spun from passing the 2 leaders on the backstretch, hard spun can\'t go that slow\"



He was off a half in 50 today but he could not be held off 45+ last time, makes sense.

[Chuckles_the_Clown2]

miff Wrote:
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> \"There was NO WAY that Pino cld have kept hard
> spun from passing the 2 leaders on the
> backstretch, hard spun can\'t go that slow\"
>
>
>
> He was off a half in 50 today but he could not be
> held off 45+ last time, makes sense.

The efforts in the first two legs caught up with him. If he came out in good order he\'ll be fine after a break. Maybe TAP will get so confident he\'ll try Rags one more time vs the Colts. I hope he does.

Curlin certainly got the distance but i\'ll be shocked if the winning Tfig exceeds Zero. I\'m thinking about a 1, which is what Rags needed to upset.

And may Garrett Gomez never get a leg up on Rags again.

[miff]

Chuck,

Two problems, very slow pace and the only two turn race.Figs for races like this and the Bluegrass must be looked at a little differently.


Mike