Road Warriers

[Silver Charm]

I know this is horse racing wagering information site but it is also full of gamblers.

This coming weekend all four road teams in the Playoffs are favored. This includes two teams who won their divisions.

The Eagles have now turned into the bigest Wise Guy play since Saarland in the Derby.

[richiebee]

I am not really a fan of any football team but can enjoy watching a good pro
or college game...even without action.

The best professional game (if we are going to be realistic) in the next 10 days
features the \"student\" athletes from Florida and Oklahoma.

Lots of parity in the NFL this year. Personally I would like to see the Manning
brothers face off in the Super Bowl. NYC might need the emotional lift a second
Super Bowl would bring with the prospect of a rough economy in the bleak winter
months; I am already planning a New Orleans/ Hot Springs vacation with a
portion of the severance package I expect to be receiving sometime in January.

Speaking of football and unemployment, was glad to see the Jets cut their
losses with Mangini today. Mangini convinced everybody that some of the Belechek
magic had rubbed off on him, the same way that the Rodney Dangerfield look alike
Charlie Weis convinced the Notre Dame folks that the Parcells magic had rubbed
off on him.

Weis and Mangini, from what I have seen, are Division III talents with a
superior line of BS.

I\'ve said too much about football, possibly the third greatest game played
outdoors behind the Sport of Kings and golf.

2008,a year in which I worked 6 or 7 days a week every week since April 1, will
finish with a rare day off on Wednesday. See ya at the Inner Tube.

[P-Dub]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> I know this is horse racing wagering information
> site but it is also full of gamblers.
>
> This coming weekend all four road teams in the
> Playoffs are favored. This includes two teams who
> won their divisions.
>
> The Eagles have now turned into the bigest Wise
> Guy play since Saarland in the Derby.


There\'s one important difference Silver.

Philly aint gonna lose. Tavaris Jackson?? Thats like asking the leading rider at Portland Meadows to ride your Derby horse.

Wild Card weekend is like Ladies\' Day at the BC. The big boys race the following weekend.

[Silver Charm]

I think the last two Super Bowl winners started on Ladies Day.

Colts/Giants

Zenyatta will also be HOY

[Michael D.]

richiebee Wrote:
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> I am not really a fan of any football team but can
> enjoy watching a good pro
> or college game...even without action.
>
> The best professional game (if we are going to be
> realistic) in the next 10 days
> features the \"student\" athletes from Florida and
> Oklahoma.
>
> Lots of parity in the NFL this year. Personally I
> would like to see the Manning
> brothers face off in the Super Bowl. NYC might
> need the emotional lift a second
> Super Bowl would bring with the prospect of a
> rough economy in the bleak winter
> months; I am already planning a New Orleans/ Hot
> Springs vacation with a
> portion of the severance package I expect to be
> receiving sometime in January.
>
> Speaking of football and unemployment, was glad to
> see the Jets cut their
> losses with Mangini today. Mangini convinced
> everybody that some of the Belechek
> magic had rubbed off on him, the same way that the
> Rodney Dangerfield look alike
> Charlie Weis convinced the Notre Dame folks that
> the Parcells magic had rubbed
> off on him.

The Jets were 8-3 when Favre was playing ok. They went 1-4 in the last five when the white TO threw 2 TDs and 9 picks. What\'s a coach supposed to do about that?

As for the Pennington debacle, I don\'t think this was about Chad Pennington. I think it was about one ego - Brett Favre, and one genius - Bill Parcells.

Belichick had five rough years in Cleveland and got canned after a 5-11 season.

Mangini will be back.

Edit: However, one life lesson will come into play here - never burn your bridges. Belichick came back through Parcells. It\'s very unlikely Mangini will get that shot with his former mentor.

> Weis and Mangini, from what I have seen, are
> Division III talents with a
> superior line of BS.
>
> I\'ve said too much about football, possibly the
> third greatest game played
> outdoors behind the Sport of Kings and golf.
>
> 2008,a year in which I worked 6 or 7 days a week
> every week since April 1, will
> finish with a rare day off on Wednesday. See ya at
> the Inner Tube.

[HP]

The guy that should\'ve gotten fired is the Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum.  

This reminds me of the Mets, where they fired Willie and Omar Minaya stayed.  The Mets stunk because of Omar, not Willie, and when they hired a new manager with the same players they got exactly the same result.  Same with the Jets.  

Tannenbaum got outfoxed.  The Packers knew they couldn\'t rely on Favre for another long season.  Why else would they let him go?  

I\'m responding to this because the Jets...are suffering from the Shea curse.  They abandoned their real fan base at Shea, including me, and since they hightailed out to Jersey and GIANTS STADIUM (is there another professional sports franchise that plays in a building named for another team?) they have never done a thing, nor will they.  Their only hope was to move back to Shea, and now that\'s impossible.  So they are DOOMED for eternity.

[magicnight]

HP, I always thought the Jets were cursed because B\'way Joe sold his soul to Ray Walston so they could win Supe III. It\'s not like things were that great at Shea in the 70\'s and early 80\'s, y\'know!

[P-Dub]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> I think the last two Super Bowl winners started on
> Ladies Day.
>
> Colts/Giants
>
> Zenyatta will also be HOY


Wild Card weekend is usually filled with teams that have no shot at the championship except maybe a few ( the games are usually pretty exciting though). Thats the point. Same with Ladies Day. The only teams with a shot at making any noise past the first weekend are Philadelphia and Indy....maybe Baltimore but I don\'t think Flacco is there yet.  That leaves 5-6 teams with no shot.

4 of the last 11 SB winners were Wild card teams. I\'m aware of the history. But they didn\'t have Tavaris Jackson as their QB.  Donovan McNabb is one of the most underappreciated QBs in recent memory.

If you want to make an analogy with wiseguy teams and Saarland, you need to do a lot better than Philadelphia as your example. They will lay an egg against teams they should beat (a lot of teams will do that occassionally), but they also can match up with any team in the league when on their game. You can\'t say that about many of the others.

[HP]

Sorry Magicnight...I liked Shea just fine.  The Shea Curse lives!

[TGAB]

Golf? C\'mon, golf? Richiebee, you can do better than that. Golf ??

[magicnight]

I\'d call it a dump, but that wouldn\'t be fair to the other dumps. To each his own, I guess.

[HP]

I don\'t disagree with you, but to me it was perfectly okay to watch a football game there.  You see a big upgrade to the dump in the Meadowlands?  I don\'t.  If anything, it\'s ten times worse getting into and out of the Meadowlands than it ever was at Shea, and the whole selling point of their move was the usual \"more parking\" crap.  Shea Curse!

[magicnight]

Well, seeing as how I probably saw 40 Mets games there compared with one Jets game (horrible playoff game for the Richard Todd Jets in the early 80s), I can see your point of view. That stadium did make for some good football weather each December. OK ... Shea Curse it is!!!

[HP]

Right on!  Shea Curse!  

I was born in \'61.  I grew up watching Joe Willie out there!  Saw lots of great players.  The Mad Bomber.  Johnny U.  Jim Turner with the square toe shoes...  Those were the days.  

Sorry, take it back to horse racing guys...

[TGJB]

Namath is the single most overrated athlete of all time. More INTs than TDs, completed less than half his passes, winning record in 2 seasons (I think). All this despite having maybe the best receiver tandem and offensive line in history.