Larry Jones

[Silver Charm]

Looks pretty loaded tomorrow. Would not be surprised to see a 2 bagger at FG and he probably will not even be there.

La Derby is pretty balanced with several new shooters and others who figure to improve. But FF has beaten several of these once already and figures to still be improving after perservering to a win in roughly run LeComte. Must be used at marginal value

[shanahan]

one workout for Old Fashioned since the last effort...thoughts?

[Silver Charm]

Ran pretty hard first out. If he got a lot out of it he probably doesn\'t need much work.

First Sat in May is still seven weeks away. No need to be peaking now.......

[Josephus]

He\'s thinking 4 races ahead.

[DaTruth]

I wouldn\'t read too much into it.  If Jones feels a horse is getting what he or she needs from racing, Jones is going to take it easy with the horse in the mornings.   For example, Eight Belles had one published work between 10-07-07 and 2-11-08 while racing five times during that period.

[Silver Charm]

All of his horses figure to run big tomorrow.

KK in the FG Sprint may need one but this one can pack a late punch, gets a long stretch, and this field is not the Vosburgh or Cigar Mile

[spa]

In the La. Derby,I expect Terrain to win and pay $30.

[Silver Charm]

Some of these FG races look like a Chinese Buffet\'.

Everything looks so good you don\'t know where to start

Dry Martini was shuffled back and caught in heavy traffic in the Sunshine Millions in first race back down south.

Runaway winner Its A Bird got the trip, gots a rest and gets the rail.

Macho Again needed last, barn was sick over winter, back class 3YO loses Kent D but may go off at price.

Another late developing 4YO Lemon Drop Kid ships in under the radar and in the dark of the knightfor trainer who knows the dam side pedigree pretty damn good.

Bombs Away underneath!

[P-Dub]

Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Some of these FG races look like a Chinese
> Buffet\'.
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> Everything looks so good you don\'t know where to
> start
>

Unfortunately, it usually ends with a stomach ache and \"other symptoms\".  Hope you\'re feeling well tonight,  Good Luck.

[Silver Charm]

Not anymore. This was a poor effort.

Vans are leaving their respective tracks and heading to Oaklawn for the Ark Derby as I type.

Even though he moved to the lead late on the turn he looked empty at the head of the stretch.

Too Fast Too Soon TGJB?

[shanahan]

doubt it...as I posted previously this week - only ONE work since the last race...hand ridden, never asked in deept stretch.  Track was fine, we didn\'t get any rain since last night here.  You may be right, but most of the folks at the track were not surprised as the common theme seemed to be \"keep it fresh, he already has the $$\"...this is, of course as much a travesty to the bettors as a certain product\'s analysis was today at several tracks, OAK included.  Can\'t wait to redboard the TQ tomorrow.

[jimbo66]

Need to see the final figure for the race before final judgment on Old Fashioned.  At first glance, those of us that want to believe he has a distance challenged pedigree saw that today.  He effortlessly took the lead at the top of the stretch, looked like he would win by 10, then got caught late in the stretch.  And this was ONLY 1 1/16.  

However, as pointed out by shanahan, the light workout pattern by old fashioned, means he may not have been cranked up yet.  And secondly, there was a huge gap back to the 3rd place finisher.  If not for the 50-1 winner being in the race, old fashioned would have had his big margin win.  That is why the figure is important.  Perhaps it wasn\'t slow.

Then again, why anybody would want to read any of my postings after my tout of Hello Broadway for the Derby earlier today, is beyond me......  Well, when wrong, sometimes it is better to be really really wrong.......

[Silver Charm]

This was a bad race for OF no matter what the number says. And what I mean is if the final fig is OK he walked home. The need to stalk a quick pace is not good and the inability to drive to the wire in something less than 33 for the final 5/16ths is even worse.  

The other Jones 3YO FF looks like a pit bull in a China closet and would kick this OF\'s ass at a mile and an eighth.

Jimbo no need to fret about Pool 1 bets there is still Pool 2 and Dunkirk is stting there at a juicy 6-1 off that 1:01 breeze today.

I\'ll be getting a little more tomorrow. (smiley)

[bobphilo]

Agree absolutely, Jimbo. Without figures all we have is a subjective picture of how a horse did in relation to other horses whose performances are themselves just relative evaluations. We need figures as a relatively objective base to tie the performances to.

Bob

[Wrongly]

How about a little future exacta - FF with Imperial Council?  Old Fashioned looks like a nice derby rabbit.  Curious why we didn\'t see Flat Out run in the Rebel.