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Josephus

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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2009, 02:01:57 PM »
Hey Lost Cause, I agree.  I went for CM too and went \"oh,oh\" when Dunkirk got the lead.
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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2009, 02:31:44 PM »
I\'m not ready to assign cause and effect relationships, not enough information. But CD started supertesting this meet for all races (theoretically, anyway), and they were the only one of the TC tracks blood testing for Clenbuterol (they started this year). I\'ve explained that here before-- it looks like urine testing does not work because the Clenbuterol doesn\'t get to the urine in time if you give it on raceday.
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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2009, 02:33:27 PM »
TGJB Wrote:
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> I went 5 deep in the race, only pick 6 race I
> didn\'t hit (used Munnings only because I didn\'t
> want to single, ticket was relatively small).
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> What do Dunkirk, Flying Private and GGG all have
> in common?
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> All ran stinkers at CD Derby weekend and moved up
> 20 lengths next time out.
>
> Hmmmmm.....

Dunkirk could barely stand up on that track. Munnings trained by Pletcher and who Dunkirk was outworking ran great on Oaks Day and even better last Sat. How many lengths did Summer Bird moved up next out and POTN (trained by Baffert) move back.

The racing surface had everything to do with everything. Some liked it others didn\'t.

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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2009, 02:42:16 PM »
Summer Bird ran well at CD, concealed by a wide trip-- he didn\'t move forward nearly as much as the three I mentioned. Munnings didn\'t run in a graded stake there, which might or might not have made a difference in testing, and also, nobody said all horses are drugged. My point was that several who ran poorly that weekend came back right away to run much better. I talked to the JC drug committee again today, and the main point I made was that until you get all the testing and result info out where it can be analyzed, we\'re all playing detective.
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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2009, 03:30:41 PM »
I was being tongue-in-cheek JB. I know the \'evidence\' is merely anectdotal at this point, but does bear noting. I agree 100% that a comprehensive broad-spectrum uniform blood-test (if such a thing exists) is way over due. Absent that, as you stated, we\'re all left guessing.

Boscar Obarra

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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 04:49:26 PM »
I\'d say it was a good sign that two of the three TC races went to gynho (guys you never heard of)

 could be a lot of reasons for this, some more hopeful than others.

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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 05:57:56 PM »
All I know is, get your NW1X horses into the Belmont because they have won 3 of the last 4.

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Re: Gabby's Golden Gal Read
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2009, 03:14:44 PM »
Check out Mike Watchmaker\'s Opinions in tomorrows Form: \"Bias Plays big role at Belmont\". There was a huge rail bias (not speed bias - 1 and 2 path) at Belmont Friday and Saturday.  Every main track winner came from there including Summer Bird. That goes a long way to explaining GGG.  The 2 who had to get rail trips were GG and the 1 and they ran 1-3 sandwich with the big chalk. tThere were no real closer types who could drop out and over.  This also explains run-off inside winners Just Ben (albeit from 7 post) Convocation, and Munnings.
On days like this its like the old Keenland track - throw away all the numbers and figure who is going to get to the rail.
Wish I had figured it out Saturday. No excuse given it was a 2-day bias.
Bob