A Glimmer Of Hope

[miff]

True Boston, however tracking the performance of the figures produced is not that difficult. Barry Irwin did it and switched to TG from Rags.

[TGJB]

And I want to thank Vito for helping publicize that...

Vito is a true believer, based on faith, not knowledge, as he himself admits. As I\'ve said here before, when things happen that true believers see as threatening to their their deity-- like the Irwin thing-- he and others get agitated, and post on their board and/or show up here. It\'s not a whole lot different than the way certain religious people react to people questioning or insulting their deity or faith, and that\'s not just confined to one specific faith.

[touchgold]

well, there is no redboarding with unrivaled. Mr. Irwin clearly pointed out the discrepancy in numbers. Tg had him fast, sheets had him slow. Yesterday he was slow. Unless horses start talking, we dont know why. Who was right? Who knows. I dont play everyday, and surely wont follow the horses that came out of that parx race, but being this is such a subjective game, I think anyone claiming superiority is easily humbled by a race or series of races. The bottom line is making money. Im sure if vito was getting beat up, he may have another opinion, but sounds likes hes staying afloat. I still contend there are times where the sheets get races wrong, and there are times tg get races wrong. No one is perfect.

[SoCalMan2]

I think it is great to get Vito posting here again.  Rather than scare him away with a fight over metaphysics, why don\'t we welcome him and encourage him to discuss horses and races and handicapping.  He was a very good addition over here when he was handicapping some of the triple crown races and he left.  He is back now, let\'s not scare him away, but encourage him to stay.  I for one look forward to his assessment of the Derby.

[TGJB]

We had him faster, not fast. At least in that field.

[vp612]

\'\'Remember the cover-up is worse than the crime\'\'You said that you are not saying Unrivaled(the second coming of Seattle Slew) was not a derby contender.By the way he was a complete toss on the \'\'off the rail product\'\'.You then in your TG analysis called him a \'\'live longshot\'\'with the 1/2 winner and gorgeous bird who also finished up the track.Now if he is a contender in your view in the blue grass doesn\'t that make him a possible derby horse.? So which is it?They should ship in back to PARX and run him in a cheap allowance race.

[TGJB]

Be serious, Vito. Live longshot in a weak Derby prep doesn\'t makes him a Derby contender. He\'s 5-7 points slower than a large group of actual Derby contenders, which I\'m pretty sure I said already. The Blue Grass winner is one of them-- w had him 5 points faster going in.

They tell me Unrivaled is running in a stake next time out, not an allowance. I\'m going to go out on a limb and predict that a lot of horses that ran inside at Kee Friday and Sat will improve next time out. He will be one of them.

Nice board you guys have over there, by the way. A lot of people seem to think it\'s okay to call people names. You don\'t see a lot of that over here-- I go after them and their product on the merits, but I don\'t do that.

[vp612]

I called you a name?If they run him in a stake ,it should be in Finger Lakes.

[TGJB]

You don\'t read very carefully.

[vp612]

NO,you don\'t state your case properly,if anything, you made an ambiguous statement,not really directly at anyone.I assumed because of our  disagreements you meant me.

[P-Dub]

TGJB Wrote:
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> You don\'t read very carefully.


\"A lot of people seem to think it\'s okay to call people names.\"

Which I gather would mean, several people on the other board call people names.

[TGJB]

Right. And a logical approach, instead of making assumptions, might be for Vito to look on their board to see what I might be talking about. See that? I used logical approach and Vito in the same sentence.

[vp612]

So now you are putting me in charge of what people say.?Look I handle myself a certain way,so you should take that up with whoever you like, not me.

[vp612]

Yes I am illogical because I dare use a better product then this pair up mambo you sell.

[miff]

Vito,

I\'ll bite since I know both products for 30 years. Better how?


Mike